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  • Listening to: The Beastie Boys, "Sabotage"
  • Reading: "Children at Play" by Richard Thompson
  • Watching: MST3K - 701 "Night of the Blood Beast"
Allow me to clarify my point further. I don't mean to say "everyone has to write fanfiction the same way" or "don't draw this kind of fan art". People can write or draw whatever the hell they want, and I don't have to look at it if I don't want. But my main gripe is when the perverted vocal minority of a fanbase gets so loud and obnoxious that it overtakes the nice quiet people who just want to enjoy the show or movie or whatever. When the people who partake in the sleazier side of fandom take the spotlight and become the public's main perception of what all fans are like.

Not all MLP fans are demented furries with a fetish for clopfic; most of us just think it's a cute little show with a great cast of characters. Not all Wreck-It Ralph fans are insane Turbo defenders or squicky Jawbreaker shippers; most of us just find it to be a very entertaining and inspiring film. But when those obnoxious fans start acting out more, whether it's just because they want to make a point or because they think it's funny, it gives the rest of us a bad name.

Like I said, this all started because of a "make your own episode" discussion on Equestria Daily. The premise was "Suppose that Hasbro gives you, the average fan, free reign to pitch your own episode for an upcoming season - what's it about?" I saw people coming up with deliberately stupid ideas that would never, ever get made in a million years, like Trixie murdering Fluttershy or Gummy becoming an alicorn princess, and I'm thinking to myself "You know, this is why nobody respects this fandom. Everyone's acting like a moron." I'm embarrassed to tell people that I watch this show, because they all give me that look. Even my own sister thought I'd turned into a furry. It's gotten to the point where I almost don't want to watch the show anymore, if this is what I have to deal with.

And that's what the point of my rant was. If this is the sort of thing you legitimately enjoy, then hey, have fun with that. But when you go braying about it at the top of your lungs just because you want to see people's reactions, it makes you and the whole group look insane. I don't think there's anything that can be done to stop this, but it's still something that bugs the hell outta me.
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Pocketali Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist

Unfortunately, you'll get a lot of that with anything worthy of legitimate fannhood. I've seen that kind of stuff myself, though not quite to the degree you're having to endure. While I'm not particulary a MLP fan, my daughter Kitti606 and her husband Panicking Raven are and they are very sensible about it. I'm sorry you and others heve to deal with that extreme brand of "fanboy/girl-ism". Just try to find comfort in the fact that you are still in the majority.

 

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oneuglybunny Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2013
Well, Chief, what you've described has a name: the Greater Internet F***wad Theory, acronym G.I.F.T.  The TV Tropes site spells it out nicely tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php… . Basically, take one ordinary goofball, give him/her/it the anonymity of the internet, plus the captive audience of a fandom collective, and viola.  We create a monsterously loud lunatic.
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ToonEGuy Featured By Owner Nov 18, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
At least MLP is still only a loose interest in my case. Even if I was deeply in love with it now, I don't think I'd be anything like the fandom that your describing.

Back when I hated the show, it wasn't really a good time for me to be on DA and see a ton of MLP art everywhere, so even if I don't hate it anymore I can still admit that the fandom can be pretty loud.
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COMPUTERMANMIK428 Featured By Owner Nov 18, 2013
no offense to anyone i'm not a MLP fan ever since i was a kid i hated them and still do. i'm 26 btw.
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DrCaptPepperGirl Featured By Owner Nov 17, 2013   Filmographer
It's sad that when in ANY fandom, the good parts are overlooked and the bad parts is what gives the good fans a bad name.

Just don't visit those sites anymore than.  Yeah, it's hard to get away from it when you see it everywhere.  There are some things that I am a fan of, but I'm not part of the fanbase - especially the ones with the crazy ones that act so immature and childishly.

I usually avoid these sites and enjoy the shows that I like to myself without having to deal with any drama. Or enjoy watching the show with friends and family. :) (Smile)  If I do meet people from those fandoms, (specifically the sane, nice, and intelligent kind), then yeah I'm able to enjoy it with them without having to deal with any drama.

Just don't worry about what others will say or think about you.  If you like the show, great!  If not, then that's okay, too.  :)
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AmedaesMaximus Featured By Owner Nov 17, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Don't allow fanbases like the bronies bog you down and make you feel ashamed for enjoying the media they came from, because you'll only be gratifying those who made the stereotype to begin with. Every fanbase is full of assholes, whether that's their true nature, or they're trolling people for reactions. I don't proclaim what I like and don't like from the hilltops, but I present at face value it as part of my interests. People scoffed at me and thumbed their noses at me because of it, but I just plain don't give a shit of what other people think. I am not a fan of something on the behalf any other person other than myself, and I'm not going to give people the satisfaction of trying to tell me otherwise. If you can cope with it, great; and if you cannot, oh well. I think ultimately the biggest problem with fanbases is that the mob-mentality of the masses negatively reinforce the zealot mindset of being a fan of something is part of who you are, and not liking it, or at least not liking it in the same way they do, is offensive and an affront to who they are. That's the core reason I don't interact with the massive core of any fanbase, there's too much drama. Once you start thinking of yourself as more of an individual fan, and not as a member of a fanbase, dealing with the drama becomes a whole lot easier because you can just walk away.
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Matt-the-Hydra Featured By Owner Nov 17, 2013
For the record, "Gummy the Alicorn Princess" is sort of an in-joke with the fandom that sparked months ago. It's unlikely the guy who wrote  that was serious. The whole blog post, to me, seems more like an excuse to be silly rather than to write something genuine; that's what FimFic's for, if you ignore the silly fics on that...

But yeah, didn't know Wreck It Ralph had that side of the fandom too...
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johnnysugar Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Every fandom has weirdos and freaks. Some have more, some have less. Some have trolls posing as fans, while some have fans that are as crazy as your average troll. Regardless, I find my life is a whole lot easier if I enjoy my fandoms on my own and completely, totally avoid things like fandom forums and fan fiction.
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MetalHeadFan2500 Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2013
Ok then, glad we had this talk.
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Aya-Wavedancer Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2013
Said the same thing about some of the Fxxkheads the AF board years ago and was roundly criticized. Told to crawl into a hole and die, I can go on.


It's why most of the stories now that I write are satires mocking people who are saying things best left unsaid and really, acting out in public and making flaming asses of themselves and really, making most folks uneasy and, well, making people perceive the lot of the group as being the freaks that the small minority are.

I enjoy making Angelo the repeatned target of lampooning as well as some of the other clowns. The best thing is most of them are too stupid and imbecilic to realize I'm talking about them. :)

Maybe you just need to do some serious lampooning of those losers. You have the talent and skills, and I think you'd enjoy the delicious satire, being a fellow MSTie and all. :)
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Doodley Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2013
Testify, brotha!

I've reached the exact same point when it came to the series. I got into it back when it started, but the fandom grew into such an eldritch abomination (and the fact that the show came on the same time as Young Justice) made me become a casual fan at best.
I dunno about any of you, but seeing videos, even documentaries (the trailers to them) of brony conventions where you see male teens and men jumping around, getting dressed in brony outfits, and singing songs from the show....that doesn't make the franchise seem inviting. It just makes you feel like you're hanging around a bunch of weirdos.
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Arcangel9000 Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2013
I like weirdos. They're much more interesting than normal people.
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Doodley Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2013
Yeah, but there's weird, and then there's weird, ya know?
Like, weird, weird. The other kind of weird.
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torquesmacky Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2013
"squicky Jawbreaker shippers"

If this is Ralph/Vannelope, can't I legally inform the police about these people? I probably should....
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jbwarner86 Featured By Owner Nov 17, 2013
They get around it by aging Vanellope up so she's an adult, usually as a result of an upgrade to Sugar Rush. (Of course it makes no sense, why should it?)
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victor639514 Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
I read your first journal regarding this whole Brony Community mess and this one is another validating follow-up to the previous one. :nod:

Like you said, there will ALWAYS be a flock of insane "fans" (if they even have the audacity to call themselves that, despite all the shit coming out of their ass), but in the end, what can be done about it?

If you truly enjoy the show and wish to see more of it, then feel free to stay. It's sad to see fellow bronies leave the fandom simply because they're afraid of being labeled "crazy" just because the ACTUAL crazy ones overpower them. Point is, don't feel obligated to leave just because of what the outsiders think. 

I don't particularly care for the community's dark side because I frankly never bothered to look it up. I as a purist only want to see what the TRUE and GOOD fans can come up with that can really help this community take flight in the most positive ways. :aww:
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The-Golden-Knight Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2013
Welcome to the team, comrade. :handshake: I mean, this is why I hate the series - or maybe it's just the fans who are all a bunch of little girls inside bodies of nerdy men. Either way, the whole fanaticism is scary. I do my best to disconnect myself from it, yet it relentlessly invades my inbox here. I sincerely wish we could stop this, but it'll probably die out in a couple years just like every Internet Meme and pop star ever. It's only a matter of time until all this garbage is either stale and/or yesterday's-news.
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Lemonycoffin Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2013  Student Writer
I totally get what you mean a similar incident happened when I was talking to a friend of mine on possibly cosplaying and what days of a con us and other friends should switch when someone thought cosplaying was a weird sexual dress up thing and assumed things about us...explaining what cosplay was like my sanity depended on it.
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cresent34 Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2013
You think you've got issues..?

I just finished the first part of the Bio-shock Infinite DLC Burial at Sea...let's just say the ending had me profoundly...shaken. And this is from someone who's played a lot of games, including BSI..:(
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