- Mood: Shame
- Listening to: Soul Coughing, "Super Bon Bon"
- Reading: "Happy Trails" by Berke Breathed
- Watching: MST3K - 512 "Mitchell"
I was warned about the unsavory side of the fanbase when I started watching the show, but I figured "Oh, I can just ignore that, it's no big deal." But they're everywhere. People who draw creepy explicit fan art. Or write vicious hate-fics. Or rant endlessly about how Twilight having wings is somehow a travesty to all mankind. Or have disturbing unhealthy obsessions with side characters. It all feels like they're feeding into the brony stereotype, not because they genuinely like the show that much, but as if they're just trying to say "Look at me! I'm a grown man who likes ponies! Isn't that weird? How does that make you feel?" It's like they're trolling the fanbase, and this is the image that most people have of the fans as a whole. It's made me sort of back off from the show as a whole, because I'm reluctant to discuss it with anyone if this is the caliber of people I have to talk to.
This isn't exclusive to FIM, either. I have the same problems with some of the other fandoms I'm a part of. I get squicked out looking at the Wreck-It Ralph Confessions blog on Tumblr thanks to weirdos saying they have a crush on Turbo or they want Vanellope to die a painful bloody death. I had to leave the Pokémon fandom for a while because of the constant whining that Ash was an idiot and Misty needed to come back and marry him. And god help me if I just want to search DeviantArt for a simple reference picture of Kim Possible.
I love to see people get passionate about the things they enjoy. I think it's great when any form of media can evoke that sort of joyous reaction in a person. But this goes beyond passionate. This is, like, certifiably passionate. And I feel like some people are doing it just to weird people out, and that's really discouraging.
Basically, it's just one new facet to the show that opens up interesting new story possibilities. The characters themselves remain totally unchanged - and I knew they would. I'm baffled as to why people assumed the writers would turn the show into the polar opposite of what it's always been. They know better than to do that.
I don't really have a problem with Twilight becoming an alicorn, either. After all, she's extremely talented when it comes to magic, even if she doesn't like to draw attention to it. It makes sense that this would be what she was building towards as Princess Celestia's student. And gaining wings certainly hasn't changed who she is and how much she geeks out when it comes to reading. Personally, I think the writers have something in store for Twilight later this season - maybe Celestia is preparing her for some big cataclysmic event that she suspected might be coming soon, something that requires alicorn magic to solve. Even if the change was mandated by Hasbro, I'm confident that the writers will be able to craft a good story around it.
People have bashed Season 3, but I've just started watching it and I think it's great fun so far. Admittedly, I'm only three episodes in at this point, but the two-part "Crystal Empire" episode is probably the most inventive and engaging season premiere they've done (even if we didn't get to know King Sombra all that well), and "Too Many Pinkie Pies" is easily the hardest I've laughed all week (and a great spoof of Flanderization to boot)
And finally, while I do respect Lauren Faust greatly and applaud her for turning MLP into something genuinely entertaining, I think some fans put a little too much emphasis on whether or not she'd do things differently if she were still on the show. I liken it to "Mystery Science Theater 3000" - Joel left in the fifth season, and it still continued to be hilariously funny for the rest of its run. The departure of the creator does not necessarily mean the show is no longer valid. Fact is, the remaining writers still do a fine job of keeping the characters likeable and interesting and funny, and at the end of the day, I think that's the most important thing.
I remember watching a video several years ago on YouTube, back when Cartoon Network decided to air Fried Dynamite and have kids host the Friday night line ups, an a person was ranting about it. I personally didn't care for it, but this person took it to the extreme. He wanted the kid who hosted the show to just die and took a face poster of the kid and put bloody bullet holes to his head.
It's okay to not like things, but you don't have to be a jerk about it or go overboard with it.
I normally don't join forums or fan sites because 1) I would probably forget about it and not end up using it; 2) to avoid drama; 3) and to avoid trolls. I have zero tolerance for drama. It's not always easy to find people that are sane and won't overreact to every single thing and taking it to the extreme.
I still watch MLP:FiM and other cartoons, play Sonic & Mario games and other various games but I would avoid going to those kinds of sites.
Thankfully, I managed to meet some smart and intelligent people on DA (you included ), SheeyArt, YouTube, Skype, and some fans of MLP:FiM. People who respect each others' privacy and opinions and talk like civilized adults.
It even sickens me to see my favorite characters being abused when certain artists create pornographic art or erotic/provocative stuff of those characters. When looking for a simple reference for a particular character, I too, would find these disgusting drawings. It's just distasteful, yet at the same time a disrespect for the cartoon characters and the creators who created those cartoons.
I'm with you, I just want to find a good, simple, and clean reference without being shocked or disgusted. Or both.
But as for being into those sorts of things in the first place? Everyone who's commented will probably think I'm some sick monster for even suggesting this, but...
Now, we could go on for days trying to decipher or explain the source of interest in these things; but really, so long as these people aren't hurting anyone, aren't being loud and obnoxious about it, and aren't being overly intrusive, then what's the deal?
Does it still give us the right to be derisive or condescending toward them for it? Or to refer to them like they're nothing more than vile freaks that would be better off locked up in the brony family's basement and never spoken of?
(I'm sorry, but that really is the impression I get from some of your journals and comments, exaggerated as it may be. Just trying to make a point.)
Honestly, some of the most civil, intelligent, and all-around admirable people I've ever met were bronies who were into clop and/or grimdark. Jitterbug Jive, PaleoSteno, and DigiBrony easily come to mind, just off the top of my head.
Those are my thoughts on the matter. Something I've really needed to get off my chest for a while. Hopefully I don't wind up embarrassing myself too badly. *sigh*
Not that I have anything against calling myself a Brony, primarily because I think it's a hilarious pun and I can never resist a pun. Ever.
I hate to think about what people might do if the two of us have our own stuff popularized. It's that kind of artwork that makes me write in pain since I can't enjoy my childhood without having someone ruining it!
Luckily for me, I haven't really seen any of that crazy fandom stuff...though I have seen it more for bands/musicians, like One Direction fans or "Beliebers", for example. Though those kind of "fandoms" are a little different, considering they are obsessed with real people, instead of fictional cartoon characters. But I think there are extreme "fans", if you will, in every fandom in existence.
Luckily the fanfictions I have read are very well written ones, but on the downside you kind of have to dig to find those ones.
Nothing new either, back when Tiny Toons were the big fan fave and the internet was just beginning there was someone doing stories of Fifi being impaled or eaten. (Yech)
Others just have no clue about real life, remember the guy at a Brony Con asking a question of a voice actress about a sex fanfiction? (an infamous video.)
I don't expect fanfics to get any better, especially with 50 Shades of Gray going mainstream (supposedly done originally as a Twilight fanfic.)
Besides all that though, there seemed to be a lot of infighting among fans. Whether it was a new game or just who Sonic should be shipped with, everyone had to be yelling at everyone else for something. It's kind of jarring, and I actually think the brony fandom -- at least in my experince -- has been a lot more tame than the Sonic fans.
All that to say though, all fandoms have their dark sides. And with most fandoms, it's often a good chunk out of the whole, making the good, pure fans of the thing that much harder to find.
In short, it's about finding the right sort of people who have all their screws in place. And those are easy enough to find when you look carefully enough
But from the sounds of things, right now I think you need this more than ever to take the edge off fandoms for now ---> www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail…
Unfortunately, every fanbase has the creepy, and let's face it, deranged junction.
I know at one point I was considering writing a fan-fiction of derpy and Wildfire. But I never got around to it.
Speaking of Mortal Kombat, Why don't you put Diamond Tiara in Outworld for your fanfiction just to scare her straight? That oughta teach her a lesson about not bullying others.
True, but it'll be worth it.
Besides, you hated Diamond too, admit it.
To quote "Our Valued Customers": nothing like going on the internet to make you never want to talk about the things you like with anyone ever again.
Most of the good fans are too quiet to notice, but they're there. I saw that EqD post, but I kinda just drifted by it, as did a lot of those similar fans. But you need to be aware of the fact that it's not just fandoms with these negative types of people; pretty much any subject can have a bad apple kind of guy, who vehemently rants about a subject he either knows too little about, or so much about that it borders on unhealthy.
It's annoying, I know, but at least it's good to vent!