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Seth's Girls by jbwarner86 Seth's Girls by jbwarner86
The hurricane crossover event that occurred as part of FOX's Animation Domination this past Sunday night really rejiggered my interest in the world of "Family Guy", "American Dad", and "The Cleveland Show". Call it the MacFarlaneverse, if you will. I've been watching a lot of all three shows lately (thank you, Netflix), and despite the clamoring I hear from most detractors of Seth MacFarlane's work, I can say with certainty that they are not all just the same show dolled up three different ways. However, I'll concede there is one striking similarity - the Griffins, the Smiths, and the Tubbs-Browns all have teenage daughters who get little to no screen time per episode.

Meg shows up sparingly and just to be the butt of somebody's joke. Hayley goes entire episodes without even appearing. And Roberta's lucky if anybody even remembers she exists. As a champion of strong female characters in contemporary animation, it bugs me to see girls with so much potential get tossed to the corner of their respective writers' rooms. I think if these gals ever hung out together, they'd have quite a bit to say about their lots in life.
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IloveThesimpson Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2014
nice pic :love:
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starkillerclone-g Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2014
A Meg, how do I love thee? I'd count the ways, but it would take hours. Still, this should sum it up pretty well. www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8DKpj…
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FantasticLk Featured By Owner Oct 16, 2014  Student Filmographer
I just noticed that Meg is the only daughter of those three shows that cares about others more than herself!
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Austria-Gentleman Featured By Owner Jun 28, 2014
sexy
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GusSmee Featured By Owner May 2, 2014
What if you drew Meg lifting or rolling up her shirt to show her belly like the other girls? :D
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MissOtakuMind Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2014  Student
Omg this is so awesome! I love anything Seth Mcfarlene makes so I love this!
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KnightRider2k Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2013
3 super-cuties! ;)
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goeliath Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
wow, i love ur style
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jessicacc12 Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2013
lol xDD i look at that series to all three familie guy clevland show and amarikan dad
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Count-KraumBurger1 Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Love this piece, its a damn shame all the daughters get barely anything to do. Its like every show has to be the same fundamental formula (ie the men have have all the good plotlines, there's a weird non human character, ect). I think Haley is my favorite, love love love her singing voice.
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PizzaSpaghetti Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013
Meg = Socially awkward teenage naive girl in puberty (not uncommon)
Roberta = Socially active black girl
Hayley = Socially well but reclusive and hippie/left-wing
There not alike at all :P but nice drawing
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foxhole7 Featured By Owner Oct 20, 2012
Great pic, but I probably would've called it "Seth's Angels" instead. :P
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SasukeFlockaUchiha Featured By Owner Oct 20, 2012
Awesome
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Stitchpunk89 Featured By Owner Aug 5, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I like them and their moms, except Lois.
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Child-Of-Hades Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
All of my favorite Seth chars in one drawing...YOU ARE A GOD
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SuperDumbo64 Featured By Owner Jul 1, 2012
This is Cool
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Xros-Hero Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2012
Great Picture.
Meg- 17-18
Hayley- 18 going on 19
Roberta- 15
Hayley is the oldest of the two.
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polaco79 Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2012
haley N# 1
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landra15 Featured By Owner Apr 24, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
awesome
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SpriteStompan Featured By Owner Mar 10, 2012
Roberta looks like the oldest, but she is the youngest...
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M-102 Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2012
Yes. Haley is much more older than the two.
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MiwaDake Featured By Owner Feb 25, 2012
What bugs me so much about how they treat Meg is that they didn't always do this to her! There were at least 2 or 3 episodes where she was the central character that were good and she had real development. I wish they'd just send her to college because I'd rather not have her around then have her be the butt of the jokes.
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amaliamay Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2012
i don't watch 'family guy' or 'the cleveland show' but i do watch 'american dad!' with a devout passion and i'm going to have to disagree on your statement that hayley gets little to no airtime at all. in fact, she gets quite a bit because she and stan are so opposite (stan being conservative and hayley being a liberal).
there are numerous episodes that are focused entirely on hayley. yes, there are some episodes where she doesn't show up but there aren't many at all. she's almost always included in the episodes and usually, she has something pretty important to say.
anyways, i've put in my two cents.
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Maloney8032 Featured By Owner Feb 18, 2012
Its fun how seth increased the hottnes and social state of the daughter to each show
Meg: Social Outcast, no boyfriend at all, chubby...at best somewhat for special taste
Hayley: Kind of hippie/liberal type, has a boyfriend/husband, not the body of a supermodel...but there is something in her attitude...
Roberta: Sterotpye popular girl, has a boyfriend probably more, good lord that is not a body of a 15 year old girl! darling you need a weapons license for that!
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UncleScooter Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2012  Professional Artist
Nice take on these gals, Jesse- Hayley's definitely my favorite.
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"...So, she looks over to her husband, then sets it back down in her lap and says, 'Honey, this one's eating my popcorn.'"- Agent K ("Men in Black", 1997)
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J-Cat Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I would feel sorry for Hayley and Meg (and Lisa from the Simpson) 'cause their dads hated them
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DMajorBoss Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2011  Professional Writer
Indeed, I think that these three would hit things off rather nicely. At the very least, they'd have a few things about which they could talk about that relates well to each other.

I missed such a crossover, but I definitely like the goodness that you share here; keep up the great work, and thanks for sharing!
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RebeccaAnzu Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2011
I agree with you. Although I do not know the right, I would like to give Hayley and Meg this opportunity. If you would just let it.

Beautiful picture. I like that.
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AwesomeStarr Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2011
CUTE i luv it i think Sethis a sexist!!!
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Shana-Nyan Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2011  Professional Traditional Artist
hahaha lol meg!
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qwertypictures Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
And a huge shame too because, next to the visually obvious, each of them still has potential to grow into their own and become properly developed. Ah well, suppose one can dream...

Still amazin' work from your good self nonetheless.
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Slime-Series Featured By Owner Oct 14, 2011
I agree with you and also love the work you put into this!
I hate seeing potential wasted or could of beens. Of the three I feel for Meg the most as she gets abused the most! Fantastic work!
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Epson2000-2008 Featured By Owner Oct 12, 2011
I understand but do we need Peter,Brian and Stewie every week? This show is call Family Guy not the show starring just Seth minus the other voice actors. This show needs to put the family back in the show. It gets insufferable seeing an adult idiot, a douche bag dog and a annoying gay baby be the focus all the time and all voice by Seth.
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jbwarner86 Featured By Owner Oct 12, 2011
Then you might as well not watch the show, because the writers are fine with things the way they are and the show is one of the most successful things on FOX right now. They're not going to fix what they don't see as broken.

Yeah, I get that you're a Meg fan; I am too. But I also realize that she's the least popular character on the show, and has been pretty much since the beginning, and the chances of her getting her character fleshed out again, let alone getting her own spin-off, are quite literally nil. I've dealt with it and moved on. Doesn't mean I can't draw the occasional fan art, but that's all it is: fan art. Expecting the writers to suddenly put her back in the spotlight and heap praise and apologies upon her is just deluding yourself.
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Epson2000-2008 Featured By Owner Oct 12, 2011
Seth sucks at family sitcoms. Why does he create shows with teen girls and wives if he doesn't know how to use them. He is sexist.
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jbwarner86 Featured By Owner Oct 12, 2011
You can't blame Seth for creating Meg and then not knowing what to do with her - clearly, the "Family Guy" writers intended her to be a main character initially, then found that they were struggling with her storylines. Like I said before, nobody creates a character with the express purpose of not using them. They tried something and it didn't work out. (It may even be as a result of the staffing change between the show's cancellation and renewal. The first three seasons' writers seemed to "get" Meg more than the current staff does.)

Hayley was created with a purpose; to act as a foil for Stan (heck, "American Dad" was originally conceived as just Stan and Hayley). And she's done that quite well, though her relevancy has waned now that the Bush administration is over. So I wouldn't put her in the same category as Meg, necessarily - she's underused, but not because the writers can't figure her out.

And it seems unfair to blame Seth for Roberta's lack of screen time. Seth didn't come up with the idea for "The Cleveland Show", Mike Henry did. Seth just got it into production for him.

There's a lot of reasons why the teen girl characters on these three shows are underused, but I don't think it's because Seth MacFarlane is sexist. I think Meg fans are just quick to jump to any conclusion that'll make Meg seem even more unjustly persecuted so they can continue to stick up for her.
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Prairiechicken Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2011
For those of you who are campaigning for Meg to get her show, perhaps you could aim for an Internet show instead. I think a TV show is probably a lost cause at this point, but if you can demonstrate to Seth that she has an underground cult following, I'm pretty sure a Net show would be cheaper to produce. Surely you can find a few people with writing talent to write the shows to portray Meg the way you like. Just throwing my two pennies to help you get the ball rolling.

BTW, I've always wondered why people blast Seth and the crew for writing Meg's character the way they do, but nobody calls out Mila Kunis? Doesn't the voice actress have any say? I thought Lacey Chabert left the show because she didn't like the direction it went. Do "hot chicks" not get held to the same moral standards as everyone else?
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vasglorious Featured By Owner Oct 16, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
You bring up a good idea, but don't most web shows flop?
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Epson2000-2008 Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2011
The Simpsons appeals to both men AND women. Lisa,Marge and all the other female characters are developed. It still wouldn't kill Seth to hire someone to help and even ask Mila,Alex and other female cast members for help. They were teen girls themselves.
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jbwarner86 Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2011
I think it's just a demographic they've chosen not to pursue. The show is still insanely successful with the 18-34 male crowd, so I guess they figure they don't need to branch out if the show's already a huge hit.

Some people think the show's current audience would lose interest if Meg and Lois became more prominent, well-developed characters. I don't know how true that is, but I guess I can understand the thinking behind it - the college kids and young adults who watch the show for all the insane stuff that happens to Peter and Brian and Stewie would probably be a little put out if they suddenly started getting plots about Meg's love life and Lois' social circle.

Y'know, as much as we might like the show to turn towards strong character-based humor and solidly structured plotlines, that's just not the kind of show "Family Guy" is, nor is that what the writers want it to be. But thankfully, we've still got "American Dad" for all that.
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GiudZ Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2011
cool!! =D
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k78 Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2011  Student Traditional Artist
Supposedly when they asked Seth why he makes Meg the butt of the jokes, he said it was because he didn't understand Teenage Girls. Yeah, my butt. That's total BS.
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jbwarner86 Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2011
You know, it's entirely possible that he's telling the truth. The Family Guy writing staff is predominantly male with a frat boy sense of humor; I can't imagine many of them knowing how to write from a teenage female perspective.
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k78 Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2011  Student Traditional Artist
Still, it's quite possible he could hire someone to help out with that. I'm just saying, instead of making Meg, and other daughters the punching bag.
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jbwarner86 Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2011
Yeah, but if they suddenly started doing Meg and Lois episodes on a regular basis, who would really watch that? Peter, Brian, and Stewie are the characters who resonate the most with the show's primary audience, and that's not going to change no matter how many Meg episodes they write.

See, the Meg fanbase is what they call a mile wide and an inch deep - very vocal on the Internet, but they make up an extremely small part of the Family Guy fanbase as a whole. All this talk of giving Meg her own show, it may be fun to toss around as fan art, but let's face it, it's not going to happen in real life. FOX isn't going to invest all that time and money into a show that'll only be watched by a couple hundred people.
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vasglorious Featured By Owner Oct 16, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Well I still believe in the idea of giving Meg Griffin her own show. But yes I know what your saying, what can't be done, just can't be done. Even though I'll never stop believing in the dream. And please don't reply with, "And that's all it is, a dream." It's just not you.


If Seth Macfarlane's writers were any smart, they wouldn't be making those dum jokes that go on forever (or as I always call them, Wasting Time Jokes) for viral entertainment. I swear, it's times like this I'm ashamed to be a man. I mean if this is the idea of humor for what is funny for animated shows now, then what's the point in making animated shows anymore?
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rftoons Featured By Owner Oct 8, 2011   Digital Artist
Those girls should have a show together.
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vasglorious Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Are you well aware of the Give Meg Griffin her own show petition?
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rftoons Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2011   Digital Artist
No, I did not. Where do I sign up?
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vasglorious Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
click on my screen name, and follow the links I put out.
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