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F16 - Lift Those Eyebrows by jbwarner86 F16 - Lift Those Eyebrows by jbwarner86
This is the first strip to spotlight Kendra, and I struggled with her for a while in trying to decide what I wanted to do with her. Ultimately, I hit on the idea of making her the artist in the group - and that made me realize that she could also be a huge animation geek, like me. But rather than just have her mirror my own opinions, I made her an exaggeration of some of the more extreme rants and raves I've seen on the ToonZone forum and elsewhere.

Personally, my only beef with DreamWorks is that a lot of their films that I've seen are boring, but I've also encountered a number of people clamoring that Megamind is just DreamWorks' answer to The Incredibles. Since accusing DreamWorks of ripping off Pixar is a running theme among certain animation fanatics, it seemed like a good chance for Kendra to make her first official appearance.
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BearBear28 Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2015  Hobbyist Filmographer
You know, when I first heard about Shark Tale 11 years ago, I thought it was similar to Finding Nemo, too.
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RavinWood Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2014
shut up Kendra. its not a rip off as the villain is the hero
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jbwarner86 Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2014
This is why I've stopped writing Kendra like this. It's actually kind of embarrassing to look back at some of my old stuff and see how obnoxious my characters used to be.
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RavinWood Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2014
every 1 has times when there obnoxious. don't be ashamed it just makes her a little more real 
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TheLonleyAssassin Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2013
One of the only good dreamworks movie I've seen recently was rise of the guardians, which was based off a book, so that doesn't really count in the original ideas box. Have you seen the piece of crap they have recently come up with, Turbo? I firmly believe whoever came up with THAT idea was obviously on crack.
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jbwarner86 Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2013
Or they just put Cars and Ratatouille in a blender and pushed the mix button.

And I can't see anything related to Turbo without impulsively lisping "Turbo-tastic!" I'm sure I can't be the only one.
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TheLonleyAssassin Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2013
But then again, how to train your dragon was also a good movie, but it was also based off a book.
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thearist2013 Featured By Owner Aug 5, 2013  Student General Artist
In 2006 Pixar made a film about racing 
In 2013 Dreamworks also made a film about racing
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jbwarner86 Featured By Owner Aug 5, 2013
For Turbo, I think they just put Cars and Ratatouille in a blender and pushed the "mix" button.
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Otakukiller Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2013  Student Writer
Yeah, I just saw Turbo and my immeidate thought was this is just Cars crossed with Rattatoui. But MAN was it still a good movie

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MetalHeadFan2500 Featured By Owner Jun 19, 2012
Megamind is not a ripoff of The Incredibles,its more of a ripoff of Whedon's Dr Horrible
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KNADIO Featured By Owner Aug 15, 2011
I just went to go check out this Toonzone forum as I too am an animation geek and since I learned of it from you, I'd like to list you as the person who referred me (they ask if I was referred by an existing member) so what is your username?
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jbwarner86 Featured By Owner Aug 15, 2011
I'm J. B. Warner over there - I haven't been in a while, since there's so many ads now, but glad to know I got you interested in the site!
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Sekele Featured By Owner May 28, 2011
meh, I liked Megamind

Also Antz came out before "A Bug's Life" , and as far as I'm concerned, it was the superior movie

Also, what were Kung-Fu Panda and How to Train your Dragon supposed to rip-off?
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jbwarner86 Featured By Owner May 29, 2011
Antz was indeed released two months before A Bug's Life, but the guys at DreamWorks came up with the idea for it after Pixar had announced that it was working on a movie about insects. (And I mean immediately after - to this day, it's still believed that DreamWorks did an ant movie just so they could try to steal Pixar's thunder.)
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Sekele Featured By Owner May 29, 2011
that's possible
but I still beleave it was the better movie
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Monjaru Featured By Owner Mar 30, 2011
Yes, a movie made 6 years later, with no similarities to the previously-made film beyond being animated and having a primary theme of "Superheroes", is clearly just a rip-off. >.>

[Note: not bashing the pic, just the mentality you brought up in your artist's comment]
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cbCore Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2011
I really enjoy this piece, mostly, because I feel that Dreamworks often tries to hop on this "theme bandwagon" that isn't actually there. And I personally find Pixar to be better, anyways.
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UncleScooter Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2011  Professional Artist
I've got to agree with Kendra- it's a little more than just a freaky coincidence. Right now, the only DreamWorks animated movies that have been remotely original (and great) from something Pixar hasn't done are "How to Train Your Dragon" and "Kung Fu Panda", and let's not forget their non-CGI movies of the past, like "The Prince of Egypt", "Chicken Run", "Spirit: Stallion of the Cimarron", "The Road to El Dorado", "Sinbad: Legend of the Seven Seas", and "Wallace & Gromit: The Curse of the Were-Rabbit" :nod:

Great strip as always, Jesse, and nice takes on both the Pixar and DreamWorks characters- hope to see Kendra again in some future strips! =D
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Sekele Featured By Owner May 28, 2011
There was also Monster and Aliens, and the first two Shrek movies

plus theres quite allot of other Dreamworks movies, that while not great, can't be really called clones
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UncleScooter Featured By Owner May 28, 2011  Professional Artist
Okay, so the first two "Shrek" movies were the best ones, and "Monsters VS Aliens" had its moments :shrug:

Yeah, the ones I just mentioned :XD:
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Sekele Featured By Owner May 29, 2011
Nope, those were the good ones

I was referring to the Madagascar movies (which were in turn ripped-off by Disney's "The Wild"), Over the Hedge, or the Bee Movie
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UncleScooter Featured By Owner May 29, 2011  Professional Artist
Ugh, I hate anything related to "Madagascar", especially that King Julien character (he's SO annoying).
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"Quick, press down on the medulla oblongata! Five bucks says he smells burnt toast!"- Sam ("The Adventures of Sam & Max: Freelance Police", Ep.5- "They Came From Down There")
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Sekele Featured By Owner May 29, 2011
yeah, I don't understand why it is so popular

but the point is, not only did Dreamworks make it without copying Pixar, but Disney also copied them!
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UncleScooter Featured By Owner May 29, 2011  Professional Artist
Uh, yeah, Jesse's making that point with the characters conversing about it in the comic strip- where have you been?
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"Quick, press down on the medulla oblongata! Five bucks says he smells burnt toast!"- Sam ("The Adventures of Sam & Max: Freelance Police", Ep.5- "They Came From Down There")
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Sekele Featured By Owner May 29, 2011
well, it obviously isn't in this strip
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TheGreatUndefeatable Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2010  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Honestly, I think all those things are just cartoon movie themes that have to be done by just about any animation studio at some point. :XD:
Really, I didn't like ANTZ, and Shark Tale was just OK (Will Smith and Renee Zellweger made it watchable XD), but I thought Megamind was genius :XD:
Still, I know people who share this opinion, and it may be somewhat valid...lol
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jbwarner86 Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2010
Megamind is really really funny. But sadly, you'll never get Kendra to admit it. (She only admitted to liking How to Train Your Dragon because Chris Sanders directed it.)
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TheGreatUndefeatable Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2010  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Everyone's entitled to their opinion...no matter how stubborn. :XD:
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Stannite Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2010
Many movies are made about superheroes... and I loved Megamind!

xD

Very funny comic!
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JFP Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2010
I read in an Entertainment Weekly (I Think that was the magazine) article on Shrek back in 2001 that the teams at Pixar and Dreamworks were quite friendly, but then John Lasseter has displeased when Antz came out before A Bug's Life in 1998.

I must say that I used to hate on Dreamworks big time back around 2004-05 (I even wrote a rant disguised as fanfic on the Futurama forum PEEL which I hope noone at Dreamworks ever reads and takes seriously, as a friend of my mother's who lives near Dreamworks's studio in Glendale, California gave them a letter recommending me), but now I'm cool with the company. I lost interest in the Shrek franchise after the second movie, and didn't see Bee Movie (and I just didn't like Shark Tale), but most other Dreamworks animated films are alright. Kung Fu Panda and How to Train Your Dragon are both pretty darned good films IMHO (especially with Lilo & Stitch's Chris Sanders & Dean DeBlois (sp?) helming the latter). I'm actually quite excited that Gullermo del Toro (the guy who directed Pan's Labyrinth and the Hellboy films) is going to direct some films for Dreamworks Animation (let's hope he gets treated better than some other people have been by the company)
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HeartlessSlayer Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2010
sorry for the typo, damn computer was sensitive again
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HeartlessSlayer Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2010
and yet this sort of debate began with the conflict between John Lasseter and Jeffery Katzenburg :o, and yet, if anyone really knows, its Micheal Eisner that's to blame.
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HeartlessSlayer Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2010
and yet this sort of debate began with the conflict between John Lasseter and Jeffery Katzenburg :o, and yet, if anyone really knows, its Micheal Eisner that's to blame.
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051097 Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2010  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Megamind was actually quite a good movie. But I kept thinking he was a lot like Syndrome.

Only he got the girl. Lol
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KitsuneRagdoll Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2010
I don't really think Megamind is the reply to Incredibles. Yes, Bugs Life/Antz and Finding Nemo/Shark Tale, and most every other film, are agreeable but they're so damned alike, it's not even ripping off; it's straight up plagiarizing. Megamind and Incredibles are too different for me to agree with the "rip off" argument.
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NWolfman Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2010  Student Filmographer
Ripoffs or not, Dreamworks have been pretty damn lazy for the past few films.
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Neyebur Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2010
Well, a year was the opossite when Madagascar and Savages
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vasglorious Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2010  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
That's true.
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cooltee100 Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2010  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Yes, yes it is.
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Sekele Featured By Owner May 28, 2011
not really
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cooltee100 Featured By Owner May 28, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Oh.
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Sekele Featured By Owner May 29, 2011
There is very little resemblance between The Incredibles and Megamind, besides the fact that they are both CGI and having a superhero theme

The Incredibles is about a family of superheores, Mega Mind is about a supervillain who lost his purpose

The message of the Incredibles is that one should not be afraid to fully develop ones talents, Mega Mind is about ones ability to ultimately choose ones destiny, despite odds pushing him the other way
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cooltee100 Featured By Owner May 29, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Oh, OK. Thanks for clearing it up for me. I never saw Megamind.
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Sekele Featured By Owner May 29, 2011
I may recommend it
it's a very good movie

I'd even say it's better than some Pixar films
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cooltee100 Featured By Owner May 29, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
OK.
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Sekele Featured By Owner May 29, 2011
:nod:
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cooltee100 Featured By Owner May 29, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Oh, OK.
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Sekele Featured By Owner May 29, 2011
:iconemperorplz:
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cooltee100 Featured By Owner May 29, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
:)
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